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-breaking corporate profits show the economy is well on the road to recovery. what does it mean for workers? i'll give you some numbers and sam stein will be along with the conversation. >>> and world leaders say farewell to hillary clinton with a ringing endorsement. you'll want to see this video. michael tomasky on whether hillary clinton will make a run for the white house. share your thoughts on facebook and on twitter. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. republicans are doing a lot of maneuvering on the fiscal cliff. president obama and the democrats have put forward a plan relying mostly on raising more revenue from the wealthiest 2% of the country. republicans rely mostly on cuts affecting the middle class and the poor and republicans aren't specific about how they get $800 billion in revenue. for the conversation, let's turn to richard wolffe, msnbc political analyst and vice president and executive director of msnbc.com. and molly ball, political reporter for "the atlantic." the republican proposal includes ryan's voucher program for medica
on us all. now through january 2nd. >>> record-breaking corporate profits show the economy is well on the road to recovery. what does it mean for workers? i'll give you some numbers and sam stein will be along with the conversation. >>> and world leaders say farewell to hillary clinton with a ringing endorsement. you'll want to see this video. michael tomasky on whether hillary clinton will make a run for the white house in 2016. share your thoughts on facebook and on twitter. we're coming right back. from easy, breezy, beautiful covergirl. i have obligations. cute tobligations, but obligations.g. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thank
the economy go into a recession. i do not believe he'll do that. i'm call his bluff. he will have to make a deal with republicans because, yes, they will blame the republicans for the recession. i know that's what you're going to say. you know what there will be truth but it's obama who gets blamed for having another recession in his second term. it will be herbert hoover obama. he has ta deal. steve, i'm calling your bluff on this whole thing. >> i'm for him for making a deal and i think he will. the republicans could pass a bill tomorrow to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody making less than 250 and then we could have a discussion about the people making over 250 from now to the end of the year but we could ensure people making under 250 don't see their paychecks, $2,000 taken out of it on january 15th and january 30th. >> why should they do that? >> why can't they protect the middle class. the president says look i have them in my budget. i went through his budget. 258 proposals on taxes or spending. 15 on medicare. total of 150 billion in cuts. we spend $7 trillion in the next ten
but the economy will roar back. maybe, just maybe, zombies for obama will realize he has no clue when it comes to the economy. or we don't double dip to the recession. and the debt dissolves to pay the way for the 2016 conservatives. take your chance and take medicine now. over the long run, better for the economy. >> kimberly: call his bluff. be strong at the negotiating table to make sure you can do what is best in interest of the country. these are tough time and you have to stand your ground. if you look at the recent polling, obama dropped three points. in polling with the gallup poll. people aren't happy with him anyway. >> eric: there is a counterproposal, around $800 billion in revenue through tax reform. they go through spending cuts. none of the spending cuts in obama's plan. are we so far apart we will go up or is there a meeting ground? 'canes is smart of the republicans. last week, geithner to the treasury secretary and laughed at. across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned
a trillion dollars next year, there is more and more money on the sidelines in this economy. which means there are even more jobs that won't get created. that means economic growth will even decrease more. so, the president's got to wake up an realize he owns this economy. it is not in his political benefit to do this brinkmanship. jon: debbie, my understanding that the most to everybody agrees that the big drivers of government spending are entitlement programs like social security and medicare and medicaid. why not talk about reducing the expenditures there somehow? >> i want to say several things. one of the things got to do stop taking cheap shots. the secretary of treasury is one of the most serious people in this government. has the trust of the president and that is who the president is sending in here. let's stop taking these cheap shots. that is the kind of stuff we have to stop doing. you are right, this uncertainty is hurting the economy and putting money on the sideline, why we have to solve it. we need to walk into a room and put everything on the table. social security and
. whether it's the best solutioner to the economy is an entirely different story. this is a political and ideological argument and we'll see who wins. martha: there is a couple ways this could go. one is to land in the middle. you have $800 billion and $1.6 trillion. the other is for one side to say no deal. we'll let you go over the fiscal cliff and we'll see what happens. >> reporter: at the last minute i think there will be a deal. i think republicans will retreat and say okay, you can have higher tax rates but only on people making a half million dollars a year. the president will say, okay, but we'll only discuss -- we'll think about, we'll promise spending cuts in the future. it will be a way of kicking the can down the road. martha: charles krauthammer have a will the more leverage than republicans realize. the president does not want us to go into a recession. we'll talk about that coming up. bill: democrats are all about tax hike and republicans argue massive spending programs like medicare and social security must be dealt with in any kind of deal if you want to bring count
and the president. a little christmas cheer some early. the u.s. economy generating a stronger than expected 146,000 new jobs in november helping trim the jobless rate to 7.7%. a four-year low. happy holidays, right? not if you're john boehner. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> yes, indeed, it's like a visit from the ghost of christmas past, casual friday edition. another positive month of jobs numbers, another glum assessment by bah humbug boehner. he couldn't even be bothered to put on a holiday tie to take up the case of mr. scrooge and the top 2%. as nancy pelosi asked, why, oh, why is congress on another recess when they could be extending tax breaks for the middle class just in time for christmas? >> this is a moment of truth, the clock is ticking, christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, why are you not bringing this to the floor? is this a forever, forever protection of the wealthiest people in our country at the expense of the mid
wealthy americans are the ones who are creating the jobs and helping to turn this economy around. that remains the big sticking point. those bush era tax cuts, white house saying it should be extended for middle class americans but not for those upper income americans, carol. >> how seriously should we take these negotiations? both sides are negotiating in public, not the greatest way to negotiate in the world, right? >> reporter: right. you sort of have to take it based on the information they give you. there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes. we've seen this play out over the last four years where both sides will sort of throw these sharp elbows publicly, but then they do hammer something out. we do have to take it seriously. you have to get a sense that both sides understand the serious nature of this fiscal cliff and they do want a deal to get done. so they are looking for ways to find some kind of agreement. they are looking at outside groups today as well. the president will meet with half a dozen governors, arkansas, minnesota, utah, wisconsin, republican governor fro
. cliffhanger. i don't know. if the economy falls in the forest and no one is here to hear it is there a sound. yesterday the republicans blame the democrats and the democrats blame the republicans. john had a exclusive with chris wallace. >> brian: chris wallace sat down with jone boehner. >> steve: here is mr. boehner describing the impression at the moment of what tim geithner was trying to sell him. >> i was ghasted and i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i never seen like it we have 7 weeks before election day andepped of the year. three of those weeks are wasted with this nonsense. >> y are talking about roughly. timothy depite gite saying we'll raise taxes 1.6 trillion and washington will increase taxes on capitol gains and we would like to say we like the power to raise the debt ceiling any time we want for the executive branch which is unconstitutional. >> steve: it is not 39 or 35 percent. all nonstarters in the world of negotiation. >> gretchen: two things to discuss. why is it tim geithner doing the discussions inted of the president of the united states. let me know if
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raise these taxes, it will not hurt the economy. [talking over each other] stuart: bill clinton raised taxes and the economy took off. >> there are a lot of things that influence the economy. not just taxes. there are other things. there is no monetary policy, which was great under bill clinton. do not forget that bill clinton did welfare reform. one of the most historic acts over the last 50 years. do not forget that we caught government spending within those years. the problem with obama's proposals is he wants more. this idea that raising tax rates does not hurt the economy because, you can go ahead and spoke three packs of cigarettes a day for the rest of your life because i know somebody who did that and he did not get cancer. stuart: okay. that was very good. [ laughter ] now, i know why you have not been on the show very often. i am at a loss for words when you are done. stephen moore, i do hope you come back and see us soon. >> thank you, sir. stuart: here is an example of what i call tax hypocrisy. costco founder going to save because of the dividend payment this year. not nex
they were in 1980 or 1950, the question is given the world today and the other economies do we have a competitive tax system and i think our slow going economy under president obama says we don't. >> the new york times though makes a mention of, just a sort of a passing mention in this massive article, by the way, about the need to cut spending like one or two sentences about the need-- >> and i think that milton freedman brought us, that spending is really the tax bill. it's just delayed. so, every toll the government spends eventually they're going to have to take it from someone, either in taxes or in inflation, so, this is why you're seeing a lack of business investment is because this massive spending and huge debt tells every business owner, every investor, big tax are are coming to eventually pay for this. >> what was the point of the piece? i know there's hand wringing out there, maybe the folks on the right say under obama our taxes have gone up and we may more in taxes than we've ever paid and attempt to say, we're not-- >> this is long-term by the president and his allies
this could do to the housing market, actually to the economy as a whole, i don't think there's a comparison. >> clayton: yesterday, 4.8 billion, the government is spending, borrowing already. 1 billion as opposed to 4 per day. and how will it effect home owners less likely to buy homes, less likely to sell the home and stuck underwater and affect their credit with the tax cut expiring? >> there's huge implications, 14 million home owners underwater on their homes and 4 million homes already in the default process and short sales have been making up. home sales in general and distressed real estate. 40% of the sales and half has been short sales. by letting this tax cut expire you deincentivizes the process and we're going to see home prices come down if that happens and a lot of negative impact on the housing market. >> blight perhaps in other neighborhoods that affect someone who may stay in the neighborhood. >> great to see you and we'll certainly being keeping our eye on the mortgage forgiveness debt relief act. >> thanks for asking hee. >> clayton: a prank call to kate middleton's nurse
know, kick into place that can plunge the economy back into recession. and you have the house speaker saying this white house proposal, the one he received just a matter of days ago, isn't even serious. gloria borger, our chief political analyst, let me bring you in here. one of the questions is does it seem to you that the president feels as though he has some leverage here? he won the election, right? >> he did. >> maybe that accounts for what's in his proposal. >> yeah. this is clearly a different president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a d
that people were following and reporting on governor richardson as a steward of the economy here. >> no. that was not what was happening. when was coming out -- what was coming out of the governor's office were figures that were not being honest with the people. >> greta: you must have just about fallen over when you saw the number jump in a period of 24 or 48 hours. >> absolutely. it was a number that i knew we had to deal with. i knew we had to deal with $2 50 million. i guess we'll have to dea do wht the rest of the people are doing is tighten our belts and figure out how to solve the problem. when i was running for office, i was committed to not raising taxes. i was going to balance the budget and make sure that we were not going to raise taxes so that we could really continue to be competitive in bringing businesses to new mexico. grow our economy so that that deficit will never come back again. >> greta: well, a fast way to get money is to cut spending or eliminate waste and grow the economy. growing the economy takes a bit of time. i take it that it was expense cutting because yo
the fiscal cliff will not just impact the national economy but have a lot of impact on state and local economies, as well, and their state budgets, et cetera. the president, though, is standing firm. and jake carney saying unless the republicans give in on tax rates and raise the bush tax rates on the rich, there is no deal and the president is willing to go off the cliff. they hammered speaker boehner's proposal. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we are talking about in terms actual legislation to increase revenues it is magic beans and fairy dust. >>reporter: it doesn't sound like they are ready for a compromise. he said they do not take speaker boehner's proposal seriously enough to offer a counterpropsal so the white house believes the ball is still in the republicans' court. >>shepard: but speaker boehner has moved, if shiply and if for the first time in public but he has moved. >>reporter: he has. he is not willing yet, not yet, anyway, willing to raise tax rates. in speaker boehner's proposal he put revenue, tax revenue of $800 billion on the table. you her the white
for the economy and you? we'll get the latest from our decisionmakers. our capitol hill roundtable. debbie stabenow. tom coburn and jeep hensarling. >>> we'll get the decisions with our roundtable. then, our powerhouse roundtable weighs in on that and all of the week's politics. tea party stalwart abandons. >> conservatives on the hill are counting on us. >>> and the supreme court court takes on gay marriage. we'll break it all down with george will, james carville and mary matalin. paul krugman of the "new york times" and abc's own matthew dowd . >>> hello, again, just over three weeks away from that fiscal cliff, we just come off a week of press conferences, symbolic votes in senate, but less than an hour of serious negotiating. what will it take to break the stalemate? we'll get into that this morning, with two big roundtables of elected officials and experts. let's begin with the lawmakers. senator tom coburn for the republicans and debbie stabenow for the democrats. and congressman hensarlingg. the president said that for there to be a big deal, tax rates on the wealthy are going to h
's going quickly enough, we still need to goose the economy some. and the republicans are flabbergasted that he's not already making concessions and all he's asking for is okay guys, you say we don't have to raise the top rate, show me how you're going to do it with all these deductions many of which by the way are popular. you want more medicare cuts show me what you want and i think this is a perfectly normal negotiation and i was thinking on the way here, chris, you and i have an advantage in this. you and i covered albany, new york on the state legislature there, where you had a divided legislature, unbelievably contorted by budget fights and in the end they usually made a deal. it was complicated, sometimes it was ugly but they got to a deal. >> but they often got to it very late as you'll recall and state workers didn't get paychecks. >> this did happen. but they got there. and i ambiting more on a deal than not. i think there are some compromise points, for example, raise the top rate almost to where obama wants it and fill it in a little bit with some reduction in deductions. th
to hit record highs. >>> help wanted. why, in this economy, are some big american brand names having a tough time filling thousands of open jobs? >>> and women warriors. they're breaking barriers, battle tested, and every bit as tough as the guys. >>> good evening. there is deep shock and sadness tonight in kansas city, missouri, and across much of the football world after a horrible tragedy that has left an nfl star player and his girlfriend dead in an apparent murder-suicide. police say kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher shot the 22-year-old woman before he headed to the stadium he was expected to play in tomorrow afternoon. it was there he turned the gun on himself. thanh truong joins us from arrowhead stadium in kansas city. good evening. >> reporter: good evening to you. arrowhead stadium is a symbol of pride for this city and the kansas city chiefs but there is a lot of sorrow here right now after a deadly day ended not far from where i'm standing. shortly before 8:00 this morning, gunfire erupted at this kansas city suburban home. >> when we arrived, a lady came out a
the economy, number one, and we know whether you cut taxes or raise taxes, you are always going to spend. >> i am not agreeing with his policies. don't misunderstand me. what i am saying is this is a negotiation and he is coming in with everything. where is he going to go? is onlo come down. the gop will have to come up. somewhere we hope they meet in the middle. >> he doesn't have to come down though. i agree with compromise. i would say 51% voted for this. you know what, go ahead. it is like having a teenager that you keep telling, vegetables are good for you and they keep kicking your shins saying, i am not eating the vegetables. finally i say, eat twinkies until you die. >> you can't because twinkies have been eliminated. >> someone is going to buy them. >> last word to you, bill. >> geitner says this is going to happen, but we have to go through a little political theater. they want people to come together and do their job. if the use of the word flabbergasted is any indication we will get a lot more. he will use the word god smack tomorrow and then break out in tears. >> i disagree with
climate deal that could have an impact on our economy. talks are going on about a climate treaty that could supersede current u.s. laws in some ways and impose mandatory limits on carbon emissions. president obama failed to get a cap-and-trade will pass in his first term. is he quietly planning a new carbon crackdown through other means? joining me now is lou dobbs, host of "lou dobbs tonight" on the fox business network. that was one agenda item he could not get through. cap and trade. even when the democrats controlled the house as well, they just couldn't get that through. what would he be doing through the united nations and he could do through the u.s. congress? lou: the efforts that he is undertaking here, so little is known about what we are discussing in qatar, at the meeting of the united nations we are talking about laying out a mission schedule through 2035. without any public discussion, there is nothing about it than a presidential debate, as you know. this could have a mammoth effect on this economy. we are talking about tax levels and also significant pressure on t
and the president's stance on taxes and goal with the economy and maybe what he will say in the inauguration. look who was invited to the white house >> chris: who was left to run msnbc. >> happy and ed and arihanna huffington. i don't know if the white house released the fact. but someone from the blog sites saw it. and so wait a minute what is going on. yeah, we were invited for not a strategy but just to explain. >> gretchen: i don't know why anybody. >> brian: five talk show hosts in from the same channel? that is outrageous. >> gretchen: it might be outrageous. i am not surprised by it at all. that's the message . that station is delivering the message of this administration. it makes sense. >> steve: that particular channel that's all they would do. it would be nice to see somebody from cbs or nbc or fox news channel. >> brian: it is incredible. >> steve: what do you think that the president's people invited the way left people to a sit down there at the white house. e-mail at folks news.com. >> brian: the president will not talk to republicans unless they agree to raise rates. he hasn't tal
will also make the case that this fiscal cliff will have a negative impact on the overall economy and he will push these business leaders to support his approach. soledad? >> dan lothian, in washington, d.c., for us, thank you. >>> just a few minutes we'll be chatting with stephanie cutter, the woman who helped manage president obama's re-election campaign. we'll talk more about the fiscal cliff. >>> first a look at other stories that are making news today. zoraida has that for us. >> good morning to you. the death toll in the philippines is rising this morning. typhoon bopha moving toward beach resorts in the northern part of the country and right now it is packing winds over 90 miles an hour. that storm has already caused massive flooding and landslides in the southern philippines. dozens of buildings have been destroyed and the death toll stands at 133 with hundreds more still missing. >>> meantime in rain soaked seattle there are concerns about more mudslides. meteorologist karen maginnis joins us live from atlanta with the latest. they cannot get a break. >> they really can't, and f
which we do to grow the economy, in infrastructure and innovation and making sure america is always on the cutting-edge of new entrepreneurship, the fact is that we want to do that, the president has put that forward, the election does make a difference, the president is absolutely strong about this. look i was just with him on friday. he came to my district. was at a business. they are showing some of that video right now. local business in my district that was a toy manufacturer and what they said to the president, what they said to me is we, we make more toys when there's consumer demand. let's make sure that middle class americans have dollars in their pockets, they continue to have confidence as consumers or grow that confidence and that our businesses, large and small respond to that, that they begin to see so stability. this is time when we're calling on speaker boehner to work with the president, to work with democrats in congress, and to get done what we have to get done, the american people, middle class and businesses, let's create that stability and confidence that this
,000. the same rate we had when bill clinton was president and our economy created nearly 23 million new jobs. >> that's from a new video by the obama administration designed to get the public on the president's side of this tax fight. the president took to twitter today to answer questions about the fiscal cliff. one person asked whether deductions for homeowners are at risk to which the president responded, breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger that middle class deductions get hit. signed "bo." yesterday house speaker john boehner said this on fox news. >> listen, nobody want to go over the cliff. that's why the day after the election i tried to speed this process up by making a concession to put revenues on the table. it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is, roll over and do what i ask. >> and on "meet the press" yesterday grover tried to change america's mind about who to blame if we do go off the cliff. >> tea party 2 is going to dwarf tea
the problem. >> as we continue to try to solve the fiscal economy, today we will have small family-owned businesses in there, talking about ways that we can -- >> we're going to pull away from this. i have a question of you, dana bash. dana, are you there? she can't hear me. well, i wanted to ask her about these $800 billion in tax revenue. i want to make it clear to all of you that does not mean an increase in taxes on the wealthiest americans. that means closing loopholes and cutting other things to raise that $800 billion in tax revenue that the republicans are talking about. we're going to hear much more about this on the other side of the break and we'll be right back. >>> just moments ago, john boehner spoke to reporters and said he made an offer. part of the negotiations to avoid that fiscal cliff, he made that offer to president obama that includes $800 billion in tax revenue. he wants to overhaul the entire tax code, close loopholes, things like that. he's waiting for a response from the president. listen to what he said. >> you know, this week we made a got faith offer to
burned. >> no question about it. >> especially when you see the economy just recovering. >> that's the thing. the question would be, how much harm will this do to the economy? if you have all of these spending cuts on every government program, on top of everyone's taxes going up, i should say, once you see that prospect of everyone's taxes going up, i do think that no matter what, by mid-january at the latest, you will see that tax cut reinstated for most americans. for the bottom 98%. good, good chances the taxes are going up on the wealthy. >> psychologically, it's causing damage. confidence drop as well because of what's going on in washington. george, thank you. >> thanks for cheering us up, george. we appreciate it. >>> today on the show, we got a big show, george has two powerhouse roundtables. later this morning on "this week." >>> time now for a check of the weather with ginger. >> most the nation is snow-starved. starting yesterday, overnight, into this morning, we're getting our first big meal of snow that is. you can look at some of the places that we have here. from m
kristine laguard on? >> yes, she is head of the i.m.f., and in this global economy, nobody is in their economy alone. the world is also watching these negotiations and the lack of a deal, certainly, could shake the markets, and shake confidence across the globe. this is a global village watching the fiscal cliff. >> thanks, looking forward to that. looking forward to state of the union which starts in about ten minutes. >>> now, time to get ready for the week ahead, it's a busy week, monday, nobel prizes will be awarded, and on monday, it is fedex's busiest day. and tuesday, a big day for secretary of state hillary clinton, who travels to morocco. three days of talks with governments on how to end bloodshed in syria. more than 40,000 have died, including children, as owe now. and wednesday, the pope is tweeting, go on twitter to catch his first tweet from his personal account. the hope has managed to get nearly 600,000 followers in the last week. and on friday, person of the year, "time" is naming them. last year it was the protester that was picked. "time" is a sister comp
to do to the economy, hardworking americans are going to see a 2% reduction in their paycheck if they keep them. listen, the president, again, if he would do what he said before the election, what the republicans feel like is a little bit like charlie brown running to kick the football and lucy pulls it away. ultimate lit's a spending problem. the american people know it. this talk of taxes is almost irrelevant to the size of the trillions and trillions of debt. >> senator coburn, you say, senator, that you could sign on to a tax rate increase provided that the president and the democrats come guard with significant spending cuts and entitlement reform. what will it take for you to sign on to a tax rate increase? >> significant entitlement reform. the real problem, the president is proposing 7% of the solution. what we have been working on the other 93%. even if you do what he wants to do on tax rates, you only affect 7% of the deficit. we have spend ourselves into a hole and we're not going to raise taxes, borrow money and get out of it. will i accept a tax increase as part o
, the economy, if, in fact, we do go over the fiscal cliff, taxes will go up, major spending cuts will kick in. this weekend republican south carolina congressman seth graham said he thinks that we're going to go off the fiscal cliff in fact and he said this, i think we're going to go over the cliff, it seems to me that they made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a way to save medicare, medicaid and social security from imminent bankruptcy. senator richard blumenthal is a democrat from the state of connecticut. he joins us this morning. >> good to see you. >> you heard lindsey graham saying he thinks we're going off the cliff. you think that's true? >> i respectfully disagree. i'm really encouraged that we can avoid this fiscal cliff for a number of reasons. first of all, there is a growing group of republicans who say we really need to raise revenue, not just talk about raising revenue, but actually increase taxes on the wealthiest 2%. and they're willing to consider those kinds of taxes that the president proposed so that middle-class americ
with governors there. they're going to be talking a whole lot about money, how to keep our economy growing, and, of course, how to reduce the deficit. on thursday we'll have all eyes on washington actually. talking about same-sex marriage. two very controversial changes in washington. same-sex marriage will become legal there, and we'll also, of course, they'll be legalizing pot. those over 21 can carry up to an ounce of pot starting on thursday in washington. on friday yet another jobs report. the november jobs report this time. 171,000 jobs were added, you may recall, in october, but experts think that maybe superstorm sandy might have slowed the growth this time around. we'll see if that really does have any affect on that jobs report coming out on friday morning. on saturday college football fans pay close attention here. the heisman trophy winner will be announced. we'll find out who the best player in college football really is. >>> who was the only sitting president married in the white house. if you know the answer, tweet me@randi kaye cnn. we'll have the answer after this quick break.
, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall over a cliff over, isn't it? who cares if the super rich pay a little bit more tax? they don't care. it's not going to affect their ability to invest. >> well, piers, you've just outlined the president's narrative and robert gave you the president's sense of entitlement and mandate that he thinks he has. but let's go back four years when the president was polling not at 52% but at 70% after just being elected, beating a war hero, and he thought he could do anything and he -- the country would go along and within a coup
, the economy will fall back into recession and the unemployment rate will shoot up, rob and paula. >> tahman, the clock is ticking in all of this. where do the talks go from here this week? >> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have to accept deeper spending cuts. only 18 days left. >> the messy art of compromise. tahman bradley live in washington. >>> and rivers are rising across northern california this morning after three powerful storms blow through in less than a week. the latest round of flooding rain drenched the area yesterday, knocking down giant trees and leaving nearly 100,000 people without power. high winds overturned tractor trailers. abc's cecilia vega shows us what it looked like in california wine country. >> reporter: this is a storm that slammed the west coast from washington all the way down to the san francisco bay area. and this, take a look at it, one of
raise those taxes on businesses and investors it's going to hurt the economy and this isn't the best time to do any injury to businesses and investors when we don't have enough jobs in this country. but you may be right that the president will insist on those tax rates going up and republicans have said, look, instead of raising the tax rates why don't we close loopholes in the tax system, make the tax system more efficient and stop picking winners and losers. i think that's the latest offer the republicans have put on the table. they're not opposed to a tax increase. they're basically saying let's do it the right way in a way that doesn't hurt the economy. >> yeah, but stephen, you could close every loophole that's out there and that wouldn't make up for our deficit. >> no, but the president's plan of raising taxes on the rich, let's assume even he has his way. let's assume republicans go along with his plan. that at best raises about $70 billion a year. that leaves us with a trillion dollar deficit. this puts the president i think in a little bit of a hole. if the republicans give
that the fiscal deadlock in washington is already starting to impact the economy. the "institute for supply management" says manufacturing in the u-s shrank last month. on wall street today.. the dow dropped 60- points to fall below 13- thousand. nasdaq also fell eight points.. and the s-and-p 500 lost close to seven. news corp says.... it's shutting down "the daily" -- the first newspaper available exclusively for tablet devices.. because of a lack of readership. this is video from the newspaper's debut in february 2011. it was initially available only on apple's ipad, then expanded to other tablets. the daily's 100 employees are expected to be moved to other news corp. publications. the paper is expected to release its last issue on december 15-th. the move comes as c-e-o rupert murdoch prepares to break news corp. into two [ male announcer ] december is customer appreciation month at subway restaurants. saying thanks is a great deal because we're offering $2 six inch subs -- the cold cut combo or meatball marinara. $2 each, all december long. appreciation tastes amazing! hurry in for y
. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail him out. at least she is honest about what they are looking for. they are not honest about the problem. >> bob: pall ryan fleeced left and right. >> dana: you are hilarious. >> greg: i was hoping this was bacon. i thought they were bringing bacon home. i was depressed -- >> kimberly: you like bacon. >> greg: everybody got bacon instead of money it would be a better place. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, three stories that you will not believe the real story behind the shoeless nan the photo that made national headlines. atheists won a battle in the war on christmas taking down charlie brown. nudists in the california go nuts. rights are taken away. ♪ ♪ s from at 6:00 eastern. back to my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: treb story of the homeless man given boots from cop on cold night in new york city last month? it turns
to repair this economy to get people back on their feet to restore upward mobility and opportunity in america? >> you know, this will have a big saying in whatever they vote to do to avoid the fiscal cliff. tea party type groups saying it is going too far in raising revenues which is interesting because ryan is considered to be a hero to many in the tea party movement. >> some conservatives actually complaining because it was news to them, the boehner plan and the people who signed it, it didn't include enough different points of view, enough people in the party. all right. paul steinhauser, nice to see you, paul. >> thanks. >> 34 minutes part the hour. >>> new york city police say the man being requested for allegedly pushing a man into the path of an oncoming train is implicating himself. there it is for you to see this be they're arguing on the subway platform. a "new york post" photographer who shot a controversial front-page photo of the man trying to climb up from the tracks is explaining himself. he's writing in today's paper, he says it's unfair for people to condemn him. h
to the clinton levels, a time when the economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> let's go to the other side. republican house speaker john boehner also digging in, admitting that talks are going nowhere. speaker boehner also describing the moment when geithner first showed him the president's opening offer. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him, i said, "you can't be serious." i've just never seen anything like it. you know, we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. right now i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they've actually asked for more revenue than they've been asking for the whole entire time. >> what are the chances we're going to go over the cliff? >> there's clearly a chance. >>> meanwhile, grover norquist making a new prediction should lawmakers fail to reach a deal. >> understand how
the so-called fiscal cliff would be a big blow to the economy. >> it would be very damaging to average americans. there's no doubt about it. >> going over the cliff will hurt our economy, will hurt our job creation in our country. it's not fair to the american people. >> reporter: without a deal to cut the deficit, almost everybody's income taxes will go up january 1st. it's more than that. there will be automatic cuts to defense, to medicare doctors, to unemployment benefits. and that could mean another recession, but -- >> right now, i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. >> reporter: the white house is standing firm on taxes. >> rates have to go up. >> whose taxes are you going to raise? >> rates are going to have go up on wealthy americans. >> reporter: in addition to $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, the white house's latest offer includes $400 billion in unspecified medicare cuts and no limit on how much the government can borrow. the republican response? >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said, you can't be serious. >> reporter: two prominent republicans told
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